tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8984689.post1133960173439168618..comments2023-05-22T05:09:46.453-07:00Comments on Puff Piece: Eeeeeee! Yay dancing!Dinahhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/05623087223805813409noreply@blogger.comBlogger6125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8984689.post-4615070133733517902009-06-02T10:29:55.670-07:002009-06-02T10:29:55.670-07:00Hey Dinah! Love the blog! Thanks for ignoring the ...Hey Dinah! Love the blog! Thanks for ignoring the stupid nonsense and talking about the jidges! Tasty Oreo was pretty bitchy but I too get really impatient with the non-dancer tryouts so I was kind of glad he wasn't spending alot of time saying "good for you to enjoy dancing Socially!"<br />I loved the too young dancer! He was so good and so cute - I was actually thinking things like, "he uses the floor so well" and stuff. <br />About this 'masculine' dancing thing, check out a highlight reel Joel posted on his facebook page. With Ballet of the Dolls, he's done some fantastic pieces that are strong, physical and masculine while simultaneously feminine or gender challenging and sinewy, almost convincing you he's a 90 pound girl flinging herself around the stage to celine dione. Only so much better. That's some real dancing.<br />Shoo be doo be doo be dance!<br />AmyAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8984689.post-11344870937000249102009-05-29T14:46:58.919-07:002009-05-29T14:46:58.919-07:00Hey! Some of our educations were actually -designe...Hey! Some of our educations were actually -designed- to do this. :D<br /><br />Anyway, to your points:<br /><br />1) My love for Cat Deely knows no bounds.<br /><br />2)"Traditional parameters for what makes a dancer "good" include men that are powerful and masculine, and women that are itty bitty and feminine."<br /><br />Fair enough, although for my tastes, you forgot soft, smooth, and should smell like flowers and/or fruit. :) Of course, those are my parameters for women in general, so no need to put too fine a point on it.<br /><br />To be fair, by the way, boys also<br />like cupcakes. :)<br /><br />You raise a good point about the parameters of what makes a "good" dancer in contemporary society. However, if I'm being 100% honest, I was never the biggest fan of Travis. Then again, I'm almost never a fan of contemp dancers. There's probably more than a little ethnic socialization at work there - I think, by and large, contemp dancing is stupid and consists mostly of flailing your limbs around and flopping on the floor in an attempt to convey "emotion." I'd much rather watch Twitch than Travis, or Hok than Danny. You have to be someone of not only superior dance caliber but someone who has a little something extra - Katee, for example - to catch my attention as a contemp dancer. Maybe that's another something for a further discussion later on down the road of what makes a "good" dancer.<br /><br />Bottom line: Nigel probably -is- totally homophobic, but much more along the lines of his commentary about the gay dude's football dad (Seriously, am I the only one who, during that part, was thinking, "I love my dead gay son!"?) than along the lines of his commentary about masculinity of movement.<br /> <br />(Reposted for stupid spelling errors.)Unknownhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01222052143562021459noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8984689.post-28018828464069052322009-05-29T14:44:48.687-07:002009-05-29T14:44:48.687-07:00This comment has been removed by the author.Unknownhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01222052143562021459noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8984689.post-17840300097870132252009-05-29T14:06:36.174-07:002009-05-29T14:06:36.174-07:00SYTYCD repartee between Deedge & Chippy-bean! ...SYTYCD repartee between Deedge & Chippy-bean! I'm so glad we could meet in college so that we could put our educations towards this. <br /><br />First of all, organizing ideas is hard.<br /><br />Second, dude, who wouldn't make out with Cat Deeley? When the sweaty dancer was all, "I don't want to sweat on your Gucci & Prada!" and she was all "Dry cleaning! Dry cleaning!" and hugged him anyway, it killed me a little that I wasn't standing right there to join in with the love. She's a gazillion different kinds of fabulous.<br /><br />As for Nigel and his homophobia/comments (and this is where organizing my ideas is hard): Okay, so, traditional parameters for what makes a dancer "good" include men that are powerful and masculine, and women that are itty bitty and feminine. But when Nigel says, "dancing like a man" he really means "dancing like a straight man" and I'm not sure how that's fair or right to a gay dancer who's trying to express himself fully, especially in a solo of his own creation. <br /><br />Of course I don't really buy into ideas of gender essentialism anyway, the idea that boys are blue and like sports and meat, and girls are pink and like dresses and cupcakes. In those terms, the ideas for what constitutes a "good" dancer seem horribly outdated.<br /><br />Especially in light of some of the excellent dancers that have been on the show and challenged this notion simply by being awesome. Travis has a slightly feminine energy to his contemporary style that I think makes him a better dancer. Donyelle was proof positive that girls over 90 lbs can, too, bust some quality moves. So there's that whole debate of "what are the parameters of a good dancer, and is it time for them to evolve already?" Maybe something to explore further later.<br /><br />As for Nigel specifically and his comments, I find them homophobic not because he believes so strongly in this traditional view of male dancers, but because of how he chooses to express that view. To the two male ballroom partners, there was too much said about how he wasn't okay with two dudes dancing, and not enough said about the fact that, like, their lifts were sloppy. The guy with the football coach dad, Nigel made all this noise about how awesome his dad was for accepting him (he deserves a medal for not disowning his gay dancer son?), and didn't spend nearly enough time on the fact that the guy wasn't very grounded and also needed to finish his lines. The rhythmic gymnastics guy was a disaster not because the dude's dancing was feminine but because it was just bad. Nigel, however, chooses to critique these dancers not only on their dancing but on their sexuality as well. He may think that his opinions are rooted in traditional views of what constitutes good dancing, but mostly when he opens his mouth on this topic he just sounds like an unenlightened dick. <br /><br />In conclusion, I can't wait to see the Denver red-head. Hopefully she gets more air time in Vegas. :)Dinahhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/05623087223805813409noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8984689.post-1806098875508985412009-05-29T12:47:46.197-07:002009-05-29T12:47:46.197-07:00All right, sugar. Here's the deal: you keep bloggi...All right, sugar. Here's the deal: you keep blogging every week, and I'll keep remembering to come here and comment on your blog and then totally take the stuff you're saying on your blog to say my own stuff on my blog. <br /><br />Because I have four million ideas and am utterly shameless about the fact that I haven't the slightest idea how to organize them. :D<br /> <br />Anyway, I will let you know this, from my day of Nigel chatting and audition-watching: <br /> <br />1) It's a good thing they hid Cat Deely from me, because she is so totally fucking makey-outey that it makes me want to cry. <br /> <br />2) Nigel's homophobia is interesting in that it's a homophobia that isn't. He was pretty open in my interview about the fact that he understands a lot of dancers are gay. What he means when he talks about masculinity is dancing like a man, which I can see. For example, he really, really liked Joshua, and really, really hated that guy who basically did rhythmic gymnastics in his audition two years ago (you know who I'm talking about). His masculinity comments aren't tied directly to sexuality - they're tied to movement styles, which, frankly, I pretty much agree with nearly 100% of the time. <br /> <br />3) The best dancer in Denver that you never got to see was the red-haired girl who told a joke (if you could call it that) in the Denver episode. She was wearing green shorts and a flowery green shirt. She is IN-FUCKING-CREDIBLE. Seriously. I had to join the standing ovation she received, and I was supposedly being an objective observer at the time. She was that good. <br /> <br />Anyway, it's gonna be fun doing this season with you. :) Glad you're doing it again.Unknownhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01222052143562021459noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8984689.post-54926276400550118172009-05-29T11:13:11.196-07:002009-05-29T11:13:11.196-07:00It's SYTYCD season and Dinah is blogging on it... ...It's SYTYCD season and Dinah is blogging on it... all is right in the world!Ryan A.https://www.blogger.com/profile/11801830738091187713noreply@blogger.com